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In this week’s episode, Amberly talks to Jessie of The Bold Intentional Life. They discuss setting goals for the long-term and working towards those big goals with the little things we do each day. Jessie shares how 1% needle-movers can make a big difference in your marriage and her theory on supporting your spouse’s goals. Dive into this episode for inspiration when it comes to goal setting in life and your marriage.
Amberly: We’ve been talking about goals over the last few episodes, and I have brought in one of my favorites. This is the person I think of when I think of goal setting and reaching goals, and intentionally. And shooting for the stars, but taking those baby steps to get to the stars. Jessie Larson. She is the host of the Bold Intentional Life Podcast. She does life coaching, and she’s passionate about helping people with their mindset and mental health through podcasting, coaching, and five-minute meditations for kids, which are amazing for kids and adults. And like I said, I think of Jessie when I think of goals. So welcome, Jessie.
Jessie: Wow. Thank you so much for having me, number one, and what a glowing little review. I don’t know if I would think of myself in the same way with goals. But I’m happy that that’s what I’m putting out there, and I’m so excited to chat goals today because they are so fun and a lot of times we avoid them or think that they’re big and scary, and I like to make them small and easy and actionable.
Amberly: Yay! I’m excited! Okay, to start, Jessie, tell me a little bit about you and your husband, just give us a little marriage background so people kind of know who you are from a relationship standpoint.
Jessie: Okay. Me and Connor, from a relationship standpoint. We are living happily ever after, to put it very, very cheesy. So we’ve been married for just over 16 years. We had a little whirlwind romance. We met, and eight months later, we were married very, very quickly. Pretty typical for where I’m from here in Utah.
Amberly: That’s our timeline too, so, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Jessie: Yeah. So when you know, you know, and it’s been, it feels like we’ve been together forever. 16 years is a long time. We’ve got three kids that we’re raising, but it also feels like we just snapped our fingers. We’re still discovering new things about each other. We just really love being married. It’s one of our top priorities. It’s, I don’t even know that I would say it’s one, it’s probably our top priority. We have a lot of fun together. We like pouring into our marriage and pouring into each other.
Our goal has always been to have a really, really good marriage. Actually, our goal is to die together like the people in The Notebook movie. Side by side, hand in hand. That’s the end goal right there, but not to be morbid or anything, but making sure that we’re living our life so that, you know, that’s the point where we’re at. Where we’re madly in love, when we’re old and frail and in a home together, I guess.
Amberly: I love it. What are some things that you and Connor like to do together for fun?
Jessie: Oh, a lot of things. I mean, we’re so simple. We like the simple things. We like going for walks together. We started those back in 2020, when Covid first hit, as a way to just get away from being stuck inside. And that’s been a habit that we have stuck with now for five years about. I don’t know that I would’ve started that without it, but that’s something that we really look forward to is just our walk and talks.
We enjoy music. I’m not a music connoisseur. He is. He knows so much about so many genres of music and he’ll just send me links during the day of like, ‘Hey, this song made me think of you.’ Or, ‘Hey, this song is really cool and this is why I like it.’ I’ve got playlists from him. One is called Songs from the Sauna, and they’re just songs that he listens to when he’s in a sauna and he’s like, here’s songs from the sauna, and he’ll just add them to this playlist that I have. So I love that, it’s been fun. I don’t know, we have a lot of little quirky things. But we like doing stuff together.
Amberly: Those are fun to hear! I love that! I still remember the one day… So, Jessie lives nearby me, And I was driving home one day and I saw the back of two people and I was like, ‘I think that’s Jessie and her husband.’ Just from the back of them, because that’s the kind of creeper I am. So I got home and I was like, ‘Jessie, were you just walking in this place? I think I saw you.’
Jessie: I love it. You’re not the only person. We kind of like, we have a route and we had a time of day we were going, so if people were also driving at that same time of day, it was one of those, like, you could set your watch by us. We were out on our walks, and I got that a lot of, ‘Hey, were you just out?’ Yep. I love it.
Amberly: I’m glad I’m not the only creeper then. Okay. Let’s, let’s talk goals. I wanna dive into goals in your marriage, but I wanna hear from you first. You talk about goal setting for you. You like to make it small, actionable. I loved how you talked about your end goal in your marriage is to die together, like in The Notebook, but then you dialed it back, that those little things that you’re doing along the way are going to get you to that point. You can’t just say I do and then end up there. There’s so much that goes into that. But talk to me, marriage aside, what is goal setting to you? What does that look like for you, and why is this something that’s important to you and something you share as part of your message?
Jessie: There are lots of different words to describe it, right? We talk about goal setting, but we also talk, I mean, the name of my podcast has intentional in it. I think it’s about being intentional. I like having that, that overview, that big goal at the end. So yeah, the example I gave, we want to die together madly in love, super old and wrinkly. That means that every single day leading up to it, I have to put time and effort and little steps in. Because I would say the majority of people probably have that same outlook, that same goal when they say I do. Right? We want to be happily married 60 years later. But then life happens, careers happen, kids happen. And 15, 16 years in, 25 years in, you’re thinking, I just live with a roommate.
Best case scenario, you live with a roommate. Worst case, you live with somebody that you have grown very apart from, and you don’t actually enjoy, and you don’t do anything together. So you have to have that big vision of where you want to go. It’s like if you showed up at the airport and you were like, ‘Alright, where to, like, where am I going?’ You wouldn’t know which airline to book. You wouldn’t know which destination; you have to have a vision of where you want to go, what that end goal is, in order to take the baby steps.
Amberly: So, for you and your marriage, what do, what are those baby steps? We kind of talked about, you do your daily walk and talks, but with A Prioritized Marriage, I always talk about how what you’re doing now might not work tomorrow, might not work next week, might not work in your next season of life. How have you and your 16 years of marriage with Connor adjusted what you’re doing to keep that end goal in mind, and like when you’re learning to drive, you learn that you have to look forward? To what’s in front of you. You can’t just look directly in front of you, but you also have to know what’s directly in front of you. What have you done through your 16 years of marriage to keep you where you’re at now that you are on that trajectory to dying next to each other, old and wrinkly and madly in love. We’re just gonna keep, keep rolling with that. What does that look like for you guys?
Jessie: One of the very, very first things is that mindset and is that intention, and keeping that front of mind. For years, I had a, it’s not on my phone now, but I had my screensaver set to, it either said “I’m an amazing wife” or “I have an amazing marriage,” something like that. There was some affirmation that I had on my phone forever. And so every time I looked at that, it told me that mindset. And as subtle and as subconscious as that is, it drove so many of my decisions. Pick up my phone. It’s like “I’m an amazing wife.” Immediately, I’m like, oh, I should text my husband and ask him how his day’s going, or just like these little things. Step one is just that intention. Just telling yourself Hey, my marriage is most important.
And I know sometimes your kids come along, especially when they’re little and they are demanding so much of you physically that you might say, my kids are the most important right now. My baby’s the most important right now. And honestly, I always, always put my marriage first. And it’s not to say that I neglected other areas of my life. But I really, I told myself, at the end of my life, if the number one thing I want is this happy marriage, then marriage has to be number one, always. And that’s controversial a little bit because we say things ebb and flow and life happens and all of this stuff. My husband has told me, ‘I’ve taken jobs where I’m not gonna travel as much and we make less money because of it.’ Because he’s like, my marriage is more important. I want to be home. I don’t wanna be traveling every single weekend just to have more money in our bank account. That is one of our values.
I talk a lot about your core values and getting very, very clear on those and how you’ll determine choices and decisions that you make in your life. But for us, that’s always been a thing, and a reason why we’ve been able to make our marriage so strong is we have that as a driving force and a value of what we base our decisions off of. So if it’s, ‘Hey, we’re gonna make sure that we have a dedicated date night.’ If our kids get invited to something or if something pops up, we know already, actually, nope, marriage is most important right now. We’re gonna have to pass on this. It’s really deciding. It’s deciding if that’s your priority.
And yes, it does shift through life. When our kids were very little. Now, you know, we’re heading into the teenage years, and so they’re out on the weekends, and so we have to adjust and shift. And maybe make our date nights a day date where we are out in the daytime on Saturdays, and we’re doing something like that, so that our kids can go out and have their social life, because we’re trying to be good parents as well. So it does shift, but it’s how do we make this the top priority in the season of life that we’re in? And it is, it’s checking in with each other all the time. That’s something very important.
I personally have had to learn how to humble myself a little bit and say, ‘Am I doing a good job? Am I showing you love in the way that you need?’ Because I’m someone who can get wrapped up in the kids and in the to-do list and in the housework, and then just crash at the end of the night and feel tired. And maybe not putting my marriage first. And so I have to be willing to get that feedback. And sometimes that’s tricky. We say check in with your spouse, but yes, you have to be humble enough to get that feedback
Amberly: You’re saying sometimes I have to be humble. How do you approach that in your own marriage, and how do you like that approached? And what does that process look like of approaching each other with that feedback that could be seen as an attack? And then how do you take that feedback and work together and remember that? Because I always say remember, it’s the two of you against the problem or the two of you against the world, that this is our ultimate end goal. And I’m saying this to you, and also I’m hearing this from you, recognizing that it’s because this little shift needs to happen to keep us going on our trajectory.
Jessie: You know, it’s so funny because the number one advice we always hear when people are getting married is communication, communication, communication. But they just tell you that, they just say communication’s important, and you’re like, but like, what kind of communication or how do I communicate? And I think sometimes just even wording it of like, ‘Hey, we are a team and we’re working towards it. And right now it’s not feeling very team worky.’ When to go back with your analogy, right. It’s not feeling very much like we’re on the team or on the same page or moving towards the same goal when you are doing this. If the two of you are, are constantly making sure that you are supporting each other and coming at each other from a teamwork mentality, I think that that’s a big one, I’m not here to tear you down. I don’t wanna do that. And so if I’m giving not even criticism or feedback, feedback is probably the good word. It’s coming from a place of wanting to build together and build towards something, not tear down my partner.
And I have to think that too, when I am humbling myself, ‘Okay, he’s not trying to point out my flaws. He’s not trying to tell me how I’m failing as a wife. He’s not trying to belittle me.’ If he is, then we’ve got some bigger problems, but let’s assume that we’re working together as a team. Then I can take that feedback where it might hurt my feelings. Originally, it might sting a little bit. I can say, okay, but I know he’s not trying to do that. I know he’s coming from a place of we want to move forward, and viewing it through that lens, right? Because sometimes I can think ‘Hey, no, how dare you say that? I’m actually putting in a lot of work here. Like I’m actually trying, I’m actually doing this.’ And sometimes that feedback is hard to hear if you think you’re actually doing a really good job in a certain area. But that feedback is good because if I just keep going on thinking I’m doing a great job. He never says anything, but he’s secretly resenting me or thinking I’m not doing a good job, you know.
So we have to have that communication, respect and reiterating at the beginning of a conversation like, Hey, we’re a team. Remember this as we’re talking. We are a team, I think is really, really important.
Amberly: I think that’s something I need to work on, too. And a lot of times I come from an emotional place of this is how I’m feeling anyway. I did have that conversation actually, this morning when you were talking about recognizing that they’re coming, they’re not trying to tear you down. And I think being a safe space for your spouse. And then seeing you as a safe human who really has nothing but their best interest in mind and has nothing but love, makes a huge difference. Come at it from this person truly loves me, flaws and all, and they they want to help me become stronger in those places.
Jessie: And it’s those little daily interactions that build that trust, right? Because if we’re not doing that, sometimes we second-guess this, thinking I thought my spouse loved me. I thought we were a team. But this feels really hurtful. That can feel really hurtful if they’ve been cold. If you haven’t had any interactions, if you guys haven’t been loving each other in the way that your love languages say, right? If you haven’t had any physical connection or touch for weeks, and then your husband comes at you, or you come at him with some sort of a request, or a critique, or some feedback. That’s going to feel a lot harsher if you’re not doing all of the little things before.
But if we have a week where we’ve gone on a great date, we’ve connected outside of the kids. When he walks in the door, I greet him happily. Not just like, oh, great, you’re here. My day has been crap. Then, when I want to give some feedback or we want to kind of check in with each other and be like, how are we feeling? And we’ve got some criticism, or we’ve got some feedback for each other, that’s gonna be much more well-received because we’ve put all those drops in the bucket to prove to ourselves and to each other, we’ve got a good marriage, we’ve got each other’s backs. But if you’re not doing those little things. That feedback is a lot harder to give and receive because you don’t have anything in the bank to kinda like back it up, if that makes sense.
Amberly: No, a hundred percent. I always say, continuing to let them know ‘Hey, I’m interested in you. Hey, I think you’re cute. Hey, I see you as someone beyond the person who is bringing money in to support our lifestyle, or who is raising these hooligans with me.’
Jessie: And with courting and dating, I think that’s so interesting too, because the second advice that we probably get is after communication is to continue to date each other. And we take that to mean block out Friday night from seven to ten as date night. That’s not dating your spouse. That is going on a date with your spouse, but that is not dating your spouse. Think about when you were actually dating, right? You were checking in all the time, you were thinking about them, you were doing nice little gestures. That is dating your spouse. And that’s what we are talking about when we say you have to continue to date. It’s literally not calling up a babysitter and blocking off Friday night. It’s just not.
Amberly: It’s kind of like when they say foreplay starts outside the bedroom. It’s not chore play, it’s not about that. It’s a constant, constant pursuit of each other.
Jessie: It’s sending each other silly, stupid memes, like, I don’t know, maybe that’s just like our love language, where we get stupid because that’s what you do. It’s, ‘Hey, I was thinking about you. I’m gonna send you this.’ It’s all the little tiny things that make up continuing to date your spouse. It’s so important.
Amberly: We talked about your setting your goal of dying together, old, wrinkly and madly in love. But setting a goal of, I would love to be a concert pianist. Even concert pianists, when they become concert pianists, don’t stop practicing. They almost practice more. And set more goals and learn new songs, and work on all the things that pianists would do. It’s the same thing for your marriage. You don’t just say okay, we said I do, and now we get to live this life together, and we’re married. I feel like it’s almost more than what you did when you were dating. The feelings may shift a little bit from that twitterpated, the love is deeper. It’s a whole different thing. But you can’t keep that if you don’t keep, keep doing it.
Okay. I have a question for you because I think about this all the time, and I’ve been thinking about this leading up to our conversation, and I think you kind of touched on this. The podcast episode that goes live before this one is going to be talking all about supporting your spouse’s individual goals. Because while we are a team and we’re doing this life together, we are still individual humans with individual goals. And I’m sure there are more of these than this one, but I always think about you and Connor, and your weightlifting. I have loved watching Jessie set goals, and when she records herself and you see her get so excited ’cause she got a new personal best. But then I also remember watching your stories one day when Connor was competing. You both have competed a little bit. But when Connor was, and you were just like giddy for him and excited for him, and you’re doing this together, but then you also do it on your own, and, and you don’t have to use that example, or you can use that example.
I’m sure there are other ways you do that, but what does that look like in your marriage, where you create space and almost make your spouse’s goals your own? That one you’re literally doing together, right? You’re kind of doing similar things. Sometimes together. But what does that look like for you, and what has that looked like throughout your marriage? Maybe even, especially while you had young kids to allow each other, to have the space to have your own goals and view those as still a joint goal that is going to make your marriage better, make your partner better, and contribute to that overall goal you guys have of that life you’re building together.
Jessie: Oh, this is such a good question, and I have an answer that is weird, because normally I’m not gonna say view your husband as a child, because we’re always trying to get away from that, right? We don’t wanna be married to man children, right? Is what we call them. But think about how you would be supporting your child in a goal, right? What can I do to support you? How can I help you? You’re setting up parameters, you’re driving them to their practices. You’re doing things to support your kids because you want to see them grow.
And I always think about when I’m watching the Olympics or any kind of sporting event, I’m always looking at the supporting characters in the audience. I love watching the parents in the audience or the spouses in the audience. The Olympics, I think, in 2016, Aly Raisman, she was an Olympic gymnast for the USA team. Her parents in the audience were almost more entertaining than the actual gymnast because they were so into it. And so I just, I kind of think about that, where I want to be that supporting role. Just because we’re grown-ups, just because we’re married, doesn’t mean we’re not still growing, right?
We’re so quick to go and support our kids in the goals that they have and the things that they’re working towards. I’ve kind of thought about putting that same energy into my spouse. If they’ve got a goal, I wanna be their number one supporter. I wanna see them grow. I don’t want my spouse to be stagnant. Whether that is in weightlifting or whatever physical goal that they have, if it’s running marathons, if it’s doing triathlons. But even in their work, too. I get really excited about what they’re working on and how they’re pushing themselves.
And it’s just being interested in each other. We live these parallel lives, so often side by side where we don’t know a lot about what the other person’s doing, and when we don’t know the ins and outs of what each other are doing, it’s hard to celebrate that win because we don’t understand what they’ve overcome. It’s like reading a book about a character who goes through this huge arc, but the author leaves out the middle hundred pages, and you don’t get to be there, you know? And so, I don’t know, it’s just kind of this, it goes back again to your mindset and your intention, but it’s, it’s just being interested and, and being that support and, and it really is.
Some of my very, very favorite memories and moments have been being witness to those goals getting achieved. I remember, after a really tough year and Connor had come back from a surgery that took him out and just, it was a hard year, professionally wise and career wise. Just, you know, one of those years where you just keep getting beaten down and it just feels awful. And he competed in this power lifting event and hit every single lift he wanted to hit, and we walked back into the staging room and he just kind of broke down and in like joy and just overcome. And that was such a special moment for us because yes, that was him and his accomplishment, but it was an US thing. And it was so cool and just such a bonding moment that I was grateful that I was able to be there for the entire journey there. Not just showing up at the finish line. So, it takes a lot of work, but I don’t know if you’ve decided to say, this is my person, this is who I’ve committed to, be in the details. Be in the details of each other’s lives.
Amberly: Oh, I love that. I’m gonna start using that. I’ll credit you every time I say it. I just, I love that. Looking at it from the other side, if someone’s listening to this, like, ‘How can I tell my spouse how to support me better,’ or ‘How can I support my spouse better?’ I just keep thinking of where people say like, I lost myself in motherhood, and I keep thinking, I feel like we lose ourselves in adulthood. We think we have to be this employee and this spouse and this parent, and we don’t get to be our own individual selves.
What has helped you to thrive? Because I feel like you are your individual, Jessie, and I love seeing how that plays into every single role that you share online. But what has helped you in a marriage to do that and be that and feel like you can achieve whatever goal you set, whether it’s with Connor or it’s on your own?
Jessie: Honestly. I’m beating a dead horse, but mindset. Because that has been a goal of mine. I set out, when I got married, I said, okay, I wanna be married and I wanna die old and wrinkly together, you know, whatever. When I became a mom, I said, okay, I wanna be me. I wanna be me still, whenever I have jobs or career, that’s been my mindset. It’s I will not lose myself in X, Y, and Z. And so it does come back to that big goal, that big vision. You have to know what’s that anchor anchoring you and driving all of your choices and decisions, whether those are conscious decisions, but more importantly, your subconscious decisions. Because it’s those little subconscious ones. That’s how we get lost.
And it is, it’s adulthood. It’s not just motherhood that we get lost in. It’s like, oh my gosh, being an adult is such a freaking hard thing. But I think if you can be aware of that and say, I don’t have to lose myself in this. I can be intentional. So much of that is being okay with being vulnerable, which is really tough. That’s something that I have to be very intentional about and work on and be very, very on purpose about letting myself be seen. That can be hard, and you would think like, oh my gosh, you’re, it’s your spouse. That’s sometimes the hardest person to be vulnerable with, you know? It can be tricky, and that’s why it’s a lifelong thing.
And I think about the idea of just 1%. Just 1% better. And so when it comes to, you know, you have the over the big bird’s eye view goal that you want, but then what’s something that I can do today that moves me 1% closer to that? Is it reaching over and holding my spouse’s hand while we’re driving? That’s a 1% thing, right? Is it, I stopped at the gas station to get gas, and I know his favorite treat is a Snickers, and I’m just going to grab him a Snickers today, just because. Just little 1% things because that seems so stupid, so dumb. Grab a Snickers. But that would be something that makes me feel seen, number one, you know what my favorite candy bar is, and you thought about me while you were doing something else for yourself. Just, you know, filling your car up with gas, you didn’t have to do that. These little, little things that are just these 1% needle movers that in the grand scheme of things really make a big difference. And so even just giving yourself that own mindset of what is 1% better I can do.
And I also think that making it small like that helps to eliminate resentment. Because so often we think, okay, well if I’m putting in all this work, what’s my spouse doing? Or if you feel like you’re kind of stagnant or not working well together, our instinct is to pull back, not to put more in. Because you’re like, okay, well I’m already doing so much. My spouse needs to step it up. Telling your spouse they need to step it up. I haven’t really ever heard of that working, so someone tell me. You can feel resentment if you are like, I am pouring so much into this marriage, so much into this marriage. But if you’re just doing that little teeny baby step, guess how easy that is for your spouse to reciprocate 1% back. But if you are doing all these big grand gestures and demanding recognition for them, your spouse feels like, okay, well now I have to match that energy. Rather than doing that, I’m just not gonna do anything. But that 1%, that’s easy to trade back and forth.
Amberly: I like that perspective. I love that. Going back to a little bit personal note, here’s my fun question for you. As we wrap things up, what’s one goal that you’re working on personally right now, and how is Connor supporting you? And what is one goal that you are working on as a couple, and what are you doing this week to reach that goal?
Jessie: Ooh, those are good questions. Getting my health in check has been a goal. And I’m really good at putting my marriage first, and really good at putting my health last. It might not seem like that because I do have, you know, physical goals, and I’ve been pushing for like, weightlifting and stuff. But as sometimes things get chaotic because I do love pouring into the people around me. Sometimes I am like, oh, well this isn’t super important. So he’s been holding me to, I don’t know that it’s necessarily a goal, but making sure that I’m not letting myself slide. Making sure I, you know, if I need to make a doctor’s appointment, that I actually make it, and then I actually follow up. And it’s not in a pushy way, but in a, Hey, you said you wanted to focus on your health, so what steps are you taking this week to do that? And I have to, again, humble myself to not be like, don’t push me. Don’t, you know, don’t nag me. Because it’s not that. It’s, you had this goal, I’m gonna help you push towards it.
And a goal as a couple. This is interesting. It’s one that we’ve kind of been working on that we’re continuing, but we were talking about being content. And that might seem opposite than having a goal because a lot of times content can be, misaligned with, complacency. And there’s a big difference. We got home from a group event that we went to a little while ago with some colleagues and stuff, and we were talking and he said, you know, I think we’re probably the worst off financially. We were with some like very, very wealthy people and he said, but I think we’re the happiest. And that’s been a goal of just being happy and being content in our life. Still pushing towards goals, still having things we wanna work towards. But our goal has really been to just love our life now and holding each other to that. And so, I don’t know. I think those might be not exactly the goals you thought I was gonna say.
Amberly: No, I love both of them. I love when you talk about being content. We always talk about learning from the past and reaching for the present, but also living in the now. And I feel like that goes really well with making your marriage a priority, making what you’re doing now a priority, not just living for Friday date night. What am I doing now to look forward to Friday date night, but also have that same excitement about what I’m doing right now. I kind of love that.
I mentioned in the beginning that I linked to one of your podcast episodes and it was because I had outlined my first episode of January last year. And you talked about how you set goals in March, and I talked about how goals can be this ongoing thing, and also, you don’t have to have that time to sit down and be like, okay, we’re gonna set X, Y, and Z goals. What do we wanna do now? What do, that end goal in mind, and I think having those end goals, whether it’s you set it in the new year or you set it in spring or when it’s your anniversary, and you’re starting a new year of marriage. What is our end goal, and what are we doing to get there? And then reevaluating along the way that it’s this ongoing thing, not just, but I’m having this conversation at the beginning of the year because everyone’s doing goals, talking goals, you know, even if it’s, yeah, I’m not setting goals right now, and that’s my conversation.
Jessie: I think that’s actually perfect. If you don’t wanna set goals right now, just evaluate where you’re at, right? I don’t wanna set any new goals, but are we good right now? Are we, could we be doing better? Could I be supporting you in a different way? It’s not even setting new goals, but just kind of taking inventory of where you are. That’s awesome to do at the beginning of the year, or quarterly, or monthly, or weekly.
Amberly: Okay. Is there something you would wrap it up with, something you hope that everyone remembers from this? Something that you didn’t get to say to end this episode?
Jessie: Well, I don’t know that I didn’t get to say it, but just to reiterate that it is the small things that matter. It’s the 1%. If you did 1% every day for the month of February you would be 28% better. If someone sat down and said, ‘Hey, do you wanna be 28% better in your marriage or in X, Y, Z,’ whatever else, you’d be like, absolutely! That’s a huge increase. I heard on some podcasts I was listening to, just barely, that said like the stock market after a year, if it yields like 7% increase, that’s really good. So if you were to increase something 28% or 30%, that’s amazing. And all it takes is 1% per day. So the small things add up. Start small. Do something small.
Amberly: My Gottman quote I share is ‘It’s the small things done often that make the biggest difference.’
Jessie: There’s a reason why Gottman knows what he is talking about and is so popular.
Amberly: Thank you for chatting goals with me, Jessie. I took a lot from this conversation that I’m going to go apply in my own marriage and I hope others do as well.